Real Acceptance

Over at Red Vinyl Shoes, Tasha Fierce defends women who get breast implants.  I agree. 

Fatuosity’s sizeoftheocean extends the acceptance to dieters.  Agreed, although I have to say that I am against dieting in general (because it mostly doesn’t work, and is emotionally and physically damaging), just not against dieters.

Now my reason for accepting those who diet or alter their bust isn’t to view them as helpless victims, but to recognize that it’s none of my damned business what they do to their bodies as long as they’re not hurting anyone else.  (But I don’t want to hear their diet talk.)

So if we accept those who enlarge their breasts artifically, can we also accept those who enlarge their breasts (and everything else) naturally, that is, gainers?  If it’s wrong to reject fat people who are disabled, then isn’t is also wrong to reject people who love being fat so much that they choose to get fatter?

4 thoughts on “Real Acceptance

  1. If at anytime someone is personally attacked and made to feel ashamed because they diet, they have breast augmenation, are a gainer, etc. in my mind, that is not something that I will sign on for.

    I had no idea that anyone, anywhere in FA was advocating for an elitism based on shaming people on a personal level for not “doing it right” – this is news to me.

    “If it’s wrong to reject fat people who are disabled, then isn’t is also wrong to reject people who love being fat so much that they choose to get fatter?”

    Um, who’s doing the rejecting? What does this “rejection” look like? Not sure what this means to tell you the truth. I’m against treating people poorly, period. However, I don’t really have a problem with making a case that is anti-diet for instance, persuasion is not the same thing as “how dare you do that” or “you shouldn’t do that ever”

    I’m wondering where the line is here between judgment and discernment – the former is shame based, but the later recognizes that yes, some practices are worth promoting.

    • Sorry for taking a week to approve this; I’ve been traveling. And thanks for replying. I’m not trying to accuse anyone of anything, and am also against treating people poorly. In fact, I agree wiith everything you say above.

  2. Define “acceptance” and give examples of say, disagreement that is accepting and that which isn’t.

    For instance I’m neither convinced by either the premise of this statement;

    people who love being fat so much that they choose to get fatter

    That you can love fatness so much and that even if that made any real sense, that it would follow that it would make you want to be fatter.

    I’m guessing that feeling that the conceptualization of things doesn’t make any sense, is written off as “non acceptance” and that acceptance doesn’t mean you accept that not everyone will accept what you think or do, anymore than you do.

    Many gainers don’t “accept” mere fat acceptance either and feel that if you do not want to gain weight, you are fat hating and in denial about that. I don’t have a problem with that, I accept it, I just don’t agree with it.

  3. It took me awhile to wrap my little pea brain around what Whalium is saying in his post — from the comments, I think y’all are quicker on the uptake than me. (Smarties!)

    But what it comes down to is I believe everyone has the right to go to hell in his or her own way – as long as they aren’t taking someone else along for the ride.

    I don’t approve of dieting — but I concede everyone’s right to diet (as long as I don’t have to hear about it). And I understand the pressure to diet. I HATE what dieting does to the dieter — making the dieter feel like a failure when it is the diet that fails, not the dieter.

    Gainers … I just don’t get it. But then I don’t “get” a lot of things that motivate other folks to do what they do. Not my life. At least gainers are working toward a goal that they could achieve (unlike dieters). So it doesn’t seem as psychologically damaging.

    In all cases, I have a problem with a person who tries to lose or gain weight to make someone else happy. But that’s a whole different issue.

    I try to believe that every person is doing the best they can at any given moment.

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